George
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Post by George on Jun 11, 2011 5:05:01 GMT 10
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Post by rareearth on Jun 14, 2011 2:49:06 GMT 10
Perhaps it is even more prosaic than you think, and it may boil down to a greater numbers of oxytocin receptors in certain regions of the brain, which in turn make us more empathic, even towards non-human beings... However, that doesn't explain everything, because complex processes of moral decision-making, according to the article below, are being driven by " constraint satisfaction"... And what exactly is "constraint satisfaction" in neurobiological terms? Roughly speaking, it seems to involve various factors with various weights and probabilities interacting, so as to produce a suitable solution to a question... And what do you need with that, which the article below doesn't address? Well, you need mathematical regression analysis techniques, applied in such a way as to achieve a kind of moral calculus... Which ultimately leads to Analytic theology, so you get a truly broader perspective, and not simply a myopically broad one... Which leads to... well... God. I'm not kidding, George! Even after all that sweat you still end-up in front of... God. The Biology of Ethicschronicle.com/article/The-Biology-of-Ethics/127789/
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Post by Lykos Packleader on Jun 14, 2011 6:31:49 GMT 10
Heyla,
I wonder what this has to do with nonauthoritarian religions (especially feminist-goddess & nontheistic faiths --- anybody know?
./..... just checking
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Post by rareearth on Jun 15, 2011 0:25:10 GMT 10
Heyla, I wonder what this has to do with nonauthoritarian religions (especially feminist-goddess & nontheistic faiths --- anybody know? ./..... just checking Do you mean that there is such a thing as a "free lunch"? I disagree. Read this post to see why: " God's new fiat: Let there be... Cheaper Lunches!"
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Post by Lykos Packleader on Jun 15, 2011 2:19:50 GMT 10
Heyla,
As you can plainly see, I've read that post, and commented on it.
That still doesn't answer the question of how an omnipresent, "omnipotent," deity affects a religion where such things are irrelevant.You've obviously not read anything by Z. Budapest, Starhawk, Margot Adler, or anything published by the Circle Sanctuary. From what I've perused, some faiths _are_ nonauthoritarian, despite what most "mainstream" religions teach. I ask again: how does this relate to a "nonauthoritarian," or nontheistic religion (such as Deism) faith? Does anybody _else_ know? Please refer me to something I can either read, or go to on the Web --- thank you.
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Post by rareearth on Jun 15, 2011 11:46:49 GMT 10
Heyla, As you can plainly see, I've read that post, and commented on it. That still doesn't answer the question of how an omnipresent, "omnipotent," deity affects a religion where such things are irrelevant.You've obviously not read anything by Z. Budapest, Starhawk, Margot Adler, or anything published by the Circle Sanctuary. From what I've perused, some faiths _are_ nonauthoritarian, despite what most "mainstream" religions teach. I ask again: how does this relate to a "nonauthoritarian," or nontheistic religion (such as Deism) faith? Does anybody _else_ know? Please refer me to something I can either read, or go to on the Web --- thank you. I can't really answer your question, because you are asking me about a god I neither know, nor I could recognise. I don't understand how you can think my God is... - omnipresent
- omnipotent
- authoritarian
Do you even know that a Cesidian's God is merodepantheistic? See link below if you wish to see the exact definition. cesidian.ch/merodepantheism.htmlA merodepantheistic God is not omnipresent, not omnipotent, not authoritarian. A merodepantheistic God looks a lot like me. So please don't speak of other people's (false) deities and expect an answer from me. You are asking the wrong question, so you cannot get the right answer. Instead of asking me what my God is like, like someone who truly wishes to learn something about my thoughts, you are talking like some kind of (arrogant) god to me, and you speak like you even know my thoughts. Well, you don't know my thoughts. You are completely off-base in that regard. And while you act like some sort of a god, or think you even know what the Creator of man looks like, you are not my god, because my God is not arrogant. If my God was arrogant, I would have not lived to see my 25th birthday, but the God I know actually prevented me from killing myself. Only a true God knows how much I suffered because of human arrogance and stupidity, because of most humans' unworthiness of Salvation, but I will not get angry or upset over it anymore.
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Post by George on Jun 15, 2011 12:12:06 GMT 10
Ultimately ALL religions - irrespective of their deistic attitudes - rely on the notion of the objective existence of "right" and "wrong", and teach that doing the former results in a reward, while engaging in the latter results in punishment.
Recent scientific research also seems to show that human beings are driven to conform with societal norms more out of a fear of punishment than out of any desire to be viewed as altruistic.
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Post by Lykos Packleader on Jun 16, 2011 1:18:57 GMT 10
George, heyla,
Thanks for directly answering my question.I do appreciate the effort, even though I'm not sure I understand.
Tallini,
Once again, it's all about you. I didn't ask you; I asked anyone else. I already know that your system of belief has nothing to do with feminist, Goddess religion. This thread isn't your personal property --- and you would do well to realize that.
George is right; if someone doesn't recognize your way of looking at things, then they're "false," and "mean" to you. You're assuming that people are "out to get you," when I'm just not that into you.
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