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Post by claudre on Aug 2, 2009 0:16:43 GMT 10
Hey George!
How have you been? Did you forget to add Porto Claro to the list on your last update? I have sent you all the contacts.
Yours,
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Post by George on Aug 2, 2009 7:44:43 GMT 10
No... I havent yet completed the latest updates to the list... a result of spending large amounts of time out of Sydney over recent months.
I only udated the main + non-list pages of the site this week.
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Post by sogoln on Aug 16, 2009 19:52:34 GMT 10
Ciaron Broeck ? Who is that ? I thought it was founded by Kieran Bennett. I guess you already know that Ciaron was Kieran's nom de plume.
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Post by sogoln on Aug 19, 2009 6:50:55 GMT 10
I suggest adding Basse-Chesnaie to the list. All details are available on the Wiki.
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Post by George on Aug 19, 2009 7:21:40 GMT 10
Twochairs has been effectively defunct for quite a few months - but thanks for letting me know of the formal coup-de-grace.
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Post by George on Aug 19, 2009 7:23:32 GMT 10
I suggest adding Basse-Chesnaie to the list. All details are available on the Wiki. I'm working on a major update to the list, and will certainly add Basse-Chesnaie in due course. ...and thanks for the wonderful wiki article.
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Post by kingdom on Aug 26, 2009 22:38:02 GMT 10
Name Old Rectoryland (short form)
Name Kingdom of Lindisfaras, the COMMONWEALTH OF NEWAULDIA, and the Imperial Colonies of ASHTREE, BARDNEPO, BARRETOPIA, BLOWHOLE, BROWNHAUS, BOUCHLAND, BYRNARNIA, CHARLIA, CHEESE, COLONIA MCCOY, CRUITHNE, EDLINGTONHAL, KIBERIAN CATALAN, LINDLEYA, LIVOTOPIA, MILLAN, MONTE HERBOSO, MORRISONIA, NORSTRETH, SHACKLAND, SOUTHFIELD, SPENCERIA, STAPLETOWN, TAGGARTOPIA, WALMSLEY, WOODLAND, WARDEN, and LLAMALAND,
(long form)
E-mail king@oldrectoryland.com
Primary contact King Dominic Hinkins (+ phone number, if available)
Contact location Lincolnshire, British Isles
Postal address Vicaridomus Palace, Moorby, Old Rectoryland, Boston, Lincolnshire, PE22 7PL
Physical territory claimed Yes
Physical territory owned / occupied / controlled All
Location and other pertinent details of territorial claim/s: several square miles of farmland & various Lincolnshire residences
Status: Very active
date of foundation: late 2005
(also, the info@listofmicronations.com address seems to just bounce all emails back...)
We do claim to be a real new-country project (at least we would love to be, were such a thing pragmatic) but there are obvious elements of satire and as such we are not above being included on such lists as these. Thanks.
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Post by George on Aug 28, 2009 15:16:42 GMT 10
I seriously doubt that you own or control the territories in question.
Can you produce a JP-authorised title deed or mortgage document with your name on it, in verification of your claims?
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Post by Jason Mckerra on Aug 28, 2009 16:13:05 GMT 10
or even a website with a few photos on it...
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Post by kingdom on Aug 28, 2009 21:18:01 GMT 10
Not immediately, such things being held by the solicitors, nor would I be inclined to go to the trouble of procuring them merely to satisfy an internet forum. The few exceptions to what I or my citizens own are the church up the road, and one or two of the fields owned by a neighbouring estate. With those exceptions, areas we don't actually control are labelled 'colonies' (though they are all controlled by voluntary citizens). www.oldrectoryland.com/But never mind...if you insist on being sceptical, you may as well put us down as not owning the land. As long as we're on there we won't make a fuss.
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Post by Jason Mckerra on Aug 29, 2009 1:32:32 GMT 10
Thanks for the link :-)
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Post by George on Aug 29, 2009 7:28:18 GMT 10
Not immediately, such things being held by the solicitors, nor would I be inclined to go to the trouble of procuring them merely to satisfy an internet forum. To state the obvious: if you make a wild, unsubstantiated assertion in a public forum and then refuse to publicly verify it in said forum, the matter goes to your credibility. Thanks for effectively clarifying that you do not, in fact, possess legal title to "several square miles" of England. This will help to ensure the factual accuracy of our comprehensive List of Micronations.
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Post by Jason Mckerra on Aug 29, 2009 14:46:54 GMT 10
Welcome to the forum Dominic. Don't be offended by George, he takes the accuracy of his list seriously, and his definition of land held by a micronation often differs from other peoples definitions. You appear to lead a very interesting micronational project, I hope you stick around in the forums, as I'm always keen to know more about different micronational projects.
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Post by kingdom on Aug 31, 2009 6:10:50 GMT 10
Not offended at all...if you can't handle scepticism you shouldn't be a micropatriot ;D We do own most of the land though.
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Post by Bldvand of Livlandia on Sept 4, 2009 11:16:56 GMT 10
The Kingdom of Livlandia: livlandia.co.ccCurrently very active and is a virtual micronation.
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Post by George on Sept 4, 2009 11:17:59 GMT 10
When was it founded?
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Post by Bldvand of Livlandia on Sept 4, 2009 11:18:55 GMT 10
April 1st, 2009 (no its not a joke, just look at our forums )
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Post by George on Sept 4, 2009 11:20:38 GMT 10
OK. I'll add it to the list after 1 April next year then, per the "minimum 12 month" inclusion criterion. Thanks for the update.
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Post by Bldvand of Livlandia on Sept 4, 2009 11:33:30 GMT 10
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Post by George on Sept 4, 2009 11:38:25 GMT 10
This is not a kiddie role-playing gamer site.
If your micronation hasn't got the werewithal to last as short a period of time as 12 months, it's of no significance, and therefore not worthy of inclusion in an objective, reliable academic-standard reference site such as LOM.
The "Dr Spangle" site currently lists only 245 micronations - a very small number indeed; Furthermore, there is no third party verification of its content, and it does not include any specific information beyond links to the website and forum of each entry; referring to such a demonstrably inferior site as "vastly superior" to anything is laughable.
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Post by drspangle on Sept 4, 2009 20:41:34 GMT 10
Wait, what. Are you calling the forumlist, which by the way does not require a forum, a "kiddy role player site"? For a start, I don't think the "kiddy role players" or "simulationists" would be very happy with you saying that, For a second note, mnforumlist.com does not require forums, and lists a few "secessionist" or "physical" micronations as well. Aerica, Apiya, Bobalania, Lovely are just a few I see as i check quickly. There is lots of third party verification, I verify every entry as it is emailed to me. My site is reliable and a great reference site, I know of many people who have used it in academic projects. I only list 245 micronations because I didn't go around simply adding them with no ideas as to any data for them if we look at your virtual micronation list we can see at the start that you have a nearly nation for nation list of my nations but that abruptly halts around Ashkenatza, perhaps where you have given up copying them? I list tonnes of specific data, Forum, Websites are specific data for a start. I also host cultural items so that you can get a nicer view and idea of the nation and flags for ease of identification. I also have a description system so people can upload a short description of their nation to give viewers a greater idea on the style of the nation. It is aesthetically pleasing not because it's some "kiddie role player site" but because people tend to like that which does not burn their eyes, it's made in PHP for fast and valid updates and it generates beautiful html code that passes through the w3 validators with ease unlike the 17 errors 5 warnings on your main page alone for massive compatability. and why does my name get lovely little quotes eh "George"? If it's a reference to my use of a pseudonym, my real name is Joshua William Coales if that makes you feel any happier but I don't see why it should. It has been on MCS a lot and was on my site. EDIT: I have 245 micronations, you have 221. (107 physical, 117 virtual) I'm sorry, last I checked 245 is larger than 221.
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Post by George on Sept 4, 2009 20:46:42 GMT 10
Your site is an interesting resource for online micronation hobbyists.
As described at length elsewhere, the LOM list has an entirely different purpose.
This thread is intended as a place to request updates to the LOM list - not to debate its merits or its imagined failings. If you wish to engage in the latter, please start a separate discussion.
But please - if you intend to engage in meaningful debate - try to do us all the courtesy of using comprehensible English.
Statements such as "I only list 245 micronations because I didn't go around simply adding them with no ideas as to any data for them..." and "It is aesthetically pleasing not because it's some "kiddie role player site" but because people tend to like that which does not burn their eyes, it's made in PHP for fast and valid updates and it generates beautiful html code that passes through the w3 validators with ease unlike the 17 errors 5 warnings on your main page alone for massive compatability." are incomprehensible gibberish - which is not exactly an ideal way to introduce yourself to the membership of this forum.
Thanks for your comments.
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Post by George on Sept 5, 2009 8:03:03 GMT 10
For the information of all... I've deleted from this thread several off-topic comments which were posted by several new/anonymous members after my request to refrain from doing so was posted. Please stay on-topic, and refrain from posting rants.
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Post by George on Sept 7, 2009 20:27:59 GMT 10
I have 245 micronations, you have 221. (107 physical, 117 virtual) I'm sorry, last I checked 245 is larger than 221. Nice try, but no banana. The LOM list is progressively extended as new entries are added, and existing ones updated or expanded. That's how it is with research; when you do it properly, it takes time and effort. I know that might sound shocking to those from the "now" generation, for whom commitment to any project lasting longer than 30 seconds is anathema... but there you go. The next LOM update will be published in the next day or two, and will include approximately 40 new entries. Based on the various sources I'm working from, further updates are likely to add up to 100 more. Presumably, in your mind, that means we win.
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Post by General Hannibal Murdok on Sept 11, 2009 3:18:49 GMT 10
Hello! Please add my micronation: Name (short): ARD Name (long): Autonome Republik Deutschland Link: www.autonome-republik-deutschland.deEmail: general@autonome-republik-deutschland.de Primary Contact: General Murdok Contact location: Salzgitter, Germany Postal adress: ? Physical territory claimed: Yes Physical territory owned / occupied / controlled: Yes Location and other pertinent details of territorial claim/s: Its an underground state in a big shelter of the Worldwar II. in Germany (please correct my mistakes (i am german))
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Post by George on Sept 11, 2009 8:29:57 GMT 10
Thanks for your input. When was Autonome Republik Deutschland founded? What is your real name? Hannibal Murdoch is a character from the A-Team. I doubt it's your real name - unless you were born in the 1980s and your parents had a particularly perverse sense of humour. What is the precise location and size of this "big ww2 shelter"? What is the full legal name of the person or persons who hold legal title to it?
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Post by General Hannibal Murdok on Sept 11, 2009 23:57:06 GMT 10
The Autonome Republik Deutschland was founded in this year (??.??.2009) My real name is Daniel Nowack. Look at maps.google.de and enter Autonome Republik Deutschland. The size of the capital/shelter (Unterstadt/Undercity) is 40 x 80 meters. The size of the state? i dont know
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Post by Bokonton on Sept 29, 2009 18:27:14 GMT 10
Seems like I never asked... Could you possibly add Bokonton to LOM.com? Also, would it be okay for me to register an account at the LOM Wiki and add to it?
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Post by George on Sept 29, 2009 20:32:58 GMT 10
Sure... just post all the relevant details on here and I'll add it when I get back home late next week.
The wiki is open to everyone - just be sure to follow the content policies. I'll approve your registration as soon as I see it.
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Post by Bokonton on Sept 29, 2009 21:32:23 GMT 10
Short name: Bokonton Long name: The Republic of Bokonton Email: bokontongov@bokonton.org Primary Contact: Holly Davies Contact location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Postal address: 39 Killerton Rd, Bude, Cornwall, EX238EL Physical territory claimed: Yes Physical territory owned/occupied/controlled: Yes Location and other pertinent details of territorial claim/s: Approximately 2-to-3 acres. Status: Active Site: www.bokonton.org
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