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Post by davidv on May 31, 2009 22:52:50 GMT 10
In a previous thread I've mentioned the fact that "enfant terribles" of micronationalism like Dabrowski and Thieme became briefly active as Republican candidates.
There have been other cases of micronational figures attaining public office in the macronational world. One such is the head of the Grand Duchy of Avram, who actually became a state MP in Tasmania in the early 1990s.
Talossa has had a few of its ex-citizens attain public office. One heads a cabinet-level department in Wisconsin, and another actually went on to become a member of the British House of Commons. Most recently, a third ex-citizen has been elected to the Milwaukee City Council.
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Post by George on Jun 1, 2009 13:30:58 GMT 10
As far as Atlantium goes there are a number of members of the current Administration who are current or former government members, bureaucrats, policy advisers, senior academics and members of the judicature and humanitarian organisations. They include: Count Derek Gould - current Minister of State: Former deputy head of the Hong Kong Health Service, with over 2 decades experience as a senior government bureaucrat and policy-maker. Current senior visiting academic in both Hong Kong and Australia. Dr Suresh Agarwal - Current Minister of Social services: Honorary Vice President of the Indian Red Cross Society, Honorary Vice President of the St John Ambulance Brigade (West Bengal) and president, convenor or founder of several other Indian health and humanitarian organisations. Count Lamartine de Hollanda Jr - current Legate (diplomatic representative) in Brazil: Current Consul-General for Costa Rica and Albania, and Consul for the Dominican Republic and Nicaragua in Brazil. Current President of the Consular Confederation of the Americas. Senior medical practitioner and eminent professorial academic at the University of Pernambuco. Machiel de Vries - current Magister Aequitas (chief justice): Lecturer in constitutional law at Erasmus University, Rotterdam, senior policy adviser to the Dutch Minister of Education, and Appeal Board member of the municipal government of the Hague. William Bryk - immediate former Magister Aequitas, current Magister (justice): former New York City administrative law judge, and unsuccessful candidate for the New York state legislature and US Congress. More detailed biographies of all current members of the Administration can be found here: www.atlantium.org/biographies.html
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Post by Chas Jago on Jun 1, 2009 13:46:10 GMT 10
Rather impressive list of people there sir.
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Post by George on Jun 1, 2009 13:58:01 GMT 10
The success (or otherwise) of any organisation is determined by (a) the resonance, consistency and credibility of its "story", and (b) the quality of its people.
An organisation with a resonant, consistent "story", whose senior membership includes a range of eminent, socially well-connected personnel posesses inherent credibility and - over time - this progressively attracts other similar people/intellectual capital, in an ever-expanding, self-sustaining process.
I've always considered this to be a fairly self-evident fact of existence... although not many micronations seem to have cottoned onto it.
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Post by Chas Jago on Jun 1, 2009 14:27:20 GMT 10
Most micronations look at ideas and supports of said ideas rather than the quality of people in said micronation, hence one of the reason some micronations have lasted only afew weeks.
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Post by George on Jun 1, 2009 14:54:29 GMT 10
Agreed. Most micronations tend to put the cart before the horse, setting themselves up for failure.
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Post by davidv on Jun 1, 2009 20:31:55 GMT 10
One angle to look at it is that membership in a well-developed micronation, with a well-developed political culture, enables simulation of real world politics on a much smaller scale. Perhaps it may help, in some ways, as evidenced by the examples I listed at the start.
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Post by George on Jun 1, 2009 21:46:10 GMT 10
Indeed; I'd argue that the longevity of Talossa(s) is based almost entirely around the fun of the cut-and-thrust of its simulated "real" political process - coloured by some offbeat cultural elements, such as the invented language and Berber history, topped off with the legacy of Ben Madison's personality. It's an odd, strangely compelling mixture.
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Post by commiczar on Jun 4, 2009 5:00:33 GMT 10
The Imperial Family & Government have had a limited, but warm, relationship with several "macro" politicians over the years; however, none of these people ever played an active role in the Imperium's Affairs of State. - Former Family member was mayor.
- Family member was a Private Secretary to
the late and great Jerry Litton; former US Senator from Missouri, who died along with His Family in a plane accident, as they were in route to His re-election celebration in K.C., MO.
- Family member was a former lawyer in the
Missouri State Attorney's Office.
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